Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit KELLY MCEVERS, HOST: I'm Kelly McEvers, and this is EMBEDDED. Hello, hello. Can you hear me? DANIEL GOLDEN: Hi. How are you? MCEVERS: Hey, I'm good. This is Kelly. This is Daniel Golden. GOLDEN: Oh, this is a trip down memory lane here. Oh, I remember the... MCEVERS: Love it. GOLDEN: I remember the Kaspersons (ph). Let's see - they gave money... MCEVERS: And back in 2003, he started doing all this reporting on how the children of wealthy people were getting into these really good colleges and universities, like Harvard, because their parents were making big donations. And at one point, he gets this list. GOLDEN: I had been given, by a source of mine, a list of the 400 or so members of Harvard's Committee on University Resources, which is its committee of sort of big donors, big prospective donors. And so that's where I came across the Kushners. MCEVERS: Charles and Seryl Kushner, a very wealthy family that runs a big real estate company in New
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